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		<title>Interview with Katie Lane of Work Made For Hire</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 05:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Katie Lane is the mastermind behind Work Made For Hire, a blog about effective negotiation that makes the business side of being a freelance &#8220;creative&#8221; way less scary. Her background includes, but is not limited to, both the law and the theater. I&#8217;m a huge fan of Work Made For Hire, so I wanted to [...]]]></description>
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<p>Katie Lane is the mastermind behind <a href="http://workmadeforhire.wordpress.com/">Work Made For Hire</a>, a blog about effective negotiation that makes the business side of being a freelance &#8220;creative&#8221; way less scary. Her background includes, but is not limited to, both the law and the theater. I&#8217;m a huge fan of Work Made For Hire, so I wanted to take the opportunity to interview her about negotiation and other important topics.</p>
<p><strong>What&#8217;s the most common misconception you&#8217;ve heard from creative people about negotiation?</strong><br />
The biggest misconception that anyone has about negotiation is that they aren&#8217;t already doing it.  Negotiation is just encouraging someone else to see things your way.  Unless you&#8217;re a hermit, chances are you negotiate something every day; with your partner, your co-workers, your friends, your children.  Most people don&#8217;t associate that type of negotiation with the the negotiation that comes up in the course of business, but they&#8217;re essentially the same.  Creative folks have as much experience negotiating as business folks; they just don&#8217;t wield it quite the same way.</p>
<p><strong>We live in a world where the boundaries between work and personal life are becoming increasingly blurry, especially for those of us who do freelance creative work. Do you have any suggestions for maintaining good, clear boundaries?</strong><br />
Thinking about the boundary, and what you want it to be, is probably the most valuable thing anyone can do.  Everyone is going to have a different comfort level with how much of their personal life is mixed with their business life, but think about the following questions when you are creating (or cleaning up) online personas:<br />
(1) Are you comfortable gaining or losing business based on what folks can find out about you on the internet?<br />
(2) Are you discriminating between the quality or type of work your potential clients see?<br />
(3) Are you making a philosophical stance or a business decision about the boundary?<br />
Everyone&#8217;s going to have different approaches and that&#8217;s fine; just don&#8217;t do one thing and expect something else.</p>
<p><strong>How can freelancers who collaborate on projects work together most effectively? Should they create some kind of agreement in advance, like a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prenuptial_agreement">prenup</a> for the collaboration?</strong><br />
I think collaboration prenups are swell ideas, particularly if you&#8217;re friends with the person you&#8217;re collaborating with.  It&#8217;s a super easy way of saying, &#8220;Your friendship is extremely important to me and I don&#8217;t want to lose it over some stupid disagreement over money or font size.&#8221;  &#8216;Course, if the friendship isn&#8217;t so important, not talking about business before entering into a business relationship is a great way of saying, &#8220;I don&#8217;t like you and I don&#8217;t really care if this arrangement screws me over.&#8221;</p>
<p>As most freelancers are painfully aware from previous experience, getting screwed over in a deal rarely happens suddenly.  And it rarely happens as the result of a seething evil beast taking advantage of a poor innocent weakling.  It is a progressive situation that is fed by not talking about what is happening.  Having a collaboration agreement gives you something to turn to if that process starts and it gives you language to use that is neutral.</p>
<p>And to everyone who thinks &#8220;I don&#8217;t need that because it&#8217;s not going to happen to me; I&#8217;m best friends with my collaborator,&#8221; I have one simple question: Are you still dating your first girlfriend or boyfriend?</p>
<p><strong>What if you&#8217;re friends with your collaborator? How do you bring up and then talk productively about sordid financial details?</strong><br />
My advice here is not fancy: talk about it.  Talk about your expectations, talk about why you&#8217;re working with one another, talk about possibilities, both of the realistic and home run variety; but most importantly just talk about it.  Agree at the beginning of the conversation that it&#8217;s about business, not the friendship, and if at any point in that conversation one of you feels this isn&#8217;t a good idea, you get a free, no-questions asked Get Out of Jail Free card.</p>
<p>Do not set yourselves up to fail by deciding to do something at the very last minute where your friend is your only hope and the chance of ever getting paid is equivalent to my chance of ever making out with Tricia Helfer.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone" title="Tricia Helfer as Number Six" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5e/Number_Six_Tricia_Helfer.jpg/200px-Number_Six_Tricia_Helfer.jpg" alt="" width="200" height="267" /></p>
<p>If you cannot talk about these things in the beginning it&#8217;s probably a good sign that you should not work with one another.</p>
<p><strong>What part, if any, would you return to theater to play &#8212; and/or what play would you most want to direct?</strong></p>
<p>To play would probably be Trudy from <em>The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe</em> by <a title="Interview with Jane Wagner at the Paley Center for Media" href="http://www.shemadeit.org/meet/summary.aspx?m=115">Jane Wagner</a>.</p>
<p><img title="Lily Tomlin as Trudy in the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review" src="http://www.pittsburghlive.com/photos/2009-02-04/0205-lilytrudy-a.jpg" alt="Photo from Tomlin and Wagner Theatricalz" width="450" height="297" /></p>
<p>I did a condensed version of the play back in the dark ages, but I&#8217;d love to give the whole thing a shot.  It is a very silly play that tricks you into thinking.</p>
<p>For to direct, it&#8217;d have to be something by <a href="http://www.villagevoice.com/2008-03-11/news/why-i-am-no-longer-a-brain-dead-liberal/">Mr. Mamet</a>.  I&#8217;m particularly fond of <em>Oleanna</em>.  I&#8217;ve only seen it once, but hated it thoroughly because it was so well written.  They are both horrible, horrible characters and the script has layers upon layers with which one can play.</p>
<p><strong>Explain French bulldogs.</strong></p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/erikamoen/2702079617/"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1124" title="Photo of Josee by Erika Moen" src="http://sararyan.com/wp-content/uploads/covers/2702079617_54c3a5836a_m.jpg" alt="Photo of Josee by Erika Moen" width="160" height="240" /></a><br />
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<p>If I did, they would all suddenly disappear from the face of the earth denying thousands of people everywhere joy and clean toes.  I refuse to be responsible for such a sad world.</p>
<p><strong>Thanks Katie!</strong></p>
<p>Everybody, <a href="http://workmadeforhire.wordpress.com/feed/">subscribe</a> to <a href="http://workmadeforhire.wordpress.com/">Work Made For Hire</a>!</p>
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		<title>Hey, in case you didn&#8217;t catch me</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sara</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8230;when I was a guest on the Erika Moen Show (with your host, Erika Moen) check it out. It is totally archived, in two parts, and embedded here for your convenience:]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;when I was a guest on the Erika Moen Show (with your host, <a href="http://erikamoen.bigcartel.com/">Erika Moen</a>) check it out. It is totally archived, in two parts, and embedded here for your convenience:</p>
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		<title>New interview up</title>
		<link>http://sararyan.com/2009/02/new-interview-up/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 22:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sara</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8230;over at the also new, nifty Circle into Square: a Portland-based label, online magazine, and local artist community. It&#8217;s called Everybody Knows You&#8217;re Not From Here. Me and Steve talk about a whole bunch of stuff, including but not limited to comics, prose, and Portland, with our friend Hiram Lucke of The Harvey Girls.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;over at the also new, nifty <a href="http://circleintosquare.com/">Circle into Square</a>: a Portland-based label, online magazine, and local artist community. It&#8217;s called <a href="http://circleintosquare.com/feature/17">Everybody Knows You&#8217;re Not From Here</a>. Me and Steve talk about a whole bunch of stuff, including but not limited to comics, prose, and Portland, with our friend Hiram Lucke of <a href="http://www.theharveygirls.com">The Harvey Girls</a>.</p>
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		<title>Interview up at Hollywood the Write Way</title>
		<link>http://sararyan.com/2008/09/interview-up-at-hollywood-the-write-way/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 19:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sara</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was very pleased, a couple of weeks back, to be invited to chat with Melody Simpson over at Hollywood the Write Way, although I fear that I was only intermittently coherent. I think there might have been some points where the connection faded out &#8212; plus there&#8217;s just something about phone interviews that makes [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was very pleased, a couple of weeks back, to be invited to chat with Melody Simpson over at <a href="http://www.hollywoodthewriteway.com/2008/09/one-on-one-with-author-sara-ryan.html">Hollywood the Write Way</a>, although I fear that I was only intermittently coherent.</p>
<p>I think there might have been some points where the connection faded out &#8212; plus there&#8217;s just something about phone interviews that makes me pile qualifying clauses onto each sentence like they&#8217;re going out of style &#8212; or maybe that&#8217;s just the way I talk, and I&#8217;m only made aware of it when it&#8217;s transcribed &#8212; um, yeah.</p>
<p>Anyway, check it out, and check out the rest of her blog, too!</p>
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		<title>A few literary-themed links. Also a question for y&#8217;all.</title>
		<link>http://sararyan.com/2007/09/a-few-literary-themed-links-also-a-question-for-yall/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 11:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sara</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#8217;s a good week for readings at the downtown Powells. Junot Diaz will be there tonight, and Amy Bloom will be there tomorrow night. Here are some people posing with their favorite books. I love the black and white documentary-looking style, and I&#8217;m also fascinated by the titles people chose. There&#8217;s a new interview with [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a good week for readings at the downtown Powells. <a href="http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2004/06/14/040614fa_fact1" title="Diaz story from the New Yorker" target="_blank">Junot Diaz</a> will be there tonight, and <a href="http://www.randomhouse.com/boldtype/1002/bloom/interview.html" target="_blank">Amy Bloom</a> will be there tomorrow night.</p>
<p>Here are some <a href="http://qconline.com/multimedia/MyFavoriteBook/" target="_blank">people posing with their favorite books</a>. I love the black and white  documentary-looking style, and I&#8217;m also fascinated by the titles people chose.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a <a href="http://www.yabookscentral.com/cfusion/index.cfm?fuseAction=authors.interview&amp;interview_id=158" target="_blank">new interview with me</a> up over at YA Books Central; it&#8217;s one of the many features ofÂ  GLBT Month. Speaking of all things GLBT, check out <a href="http://worththetrip.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">Worth The Trip</a>, a great, newish blog devoted to queer books for kids and teens.</p>
<p>On another topic: it&#8217;s 4:37 AM as I type. When you find yourself awake in the middle of the night, what do you do to re-achieve unconsciousness? (Blogging, I find, is not so effective.)</p>
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		<title>Three things for Friday</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 16:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sara</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[1. Chris Beckett interviewed Steve and me about &#8220;Me and Edith Head&#8221; at The Pulse. 2. Cynthia Leitich Smith interviewed me about The Rules for Hearts at Cynsations. 3. If you&#8217;ve got a link to Periscope Studio&#8217;s blog, please please please update the address to periscopestudio.blogspot.com. The former address, mercurystudio dot blogspot dot com &#8212; [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Chris Beckett <a href="http://www.comicon.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=39;t=000270" target="_blank">interviewed Steve and me about &#8220;Me and Edith Head&#8221; at The Pulse</a>.</p>
<p>2. <a href="http://cynthialeitichsmith.com/" target="_blank">Cynthia Leitich Smith</a> <a href="http://cynthialeitichsmith.blogspot.com/2007/09/author-interview-sara-ryan-on-rules-for.html" target="_blank">interviewed me about <em>The Rules for Hearts</em> at Cynsations</a>.</p>
<p>3. If you&#8217;ve got a link to <a href="http://periscopestudio.blogspot.com">Periscope Studio&#8217;s blog</a>, please please please update the address to <a href="http://periscopestudio.blogspot.com" target="_blank">periscopestudio.blogspot.com</a>. The former address, mercurystudio dot blogspot dot com &#8212; a relic of the old studio name &#8212; has been taken over by spammers. Spread the word!</p>
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